1987 Stock Market Crash Example of Increasing Risks in Investing
October 19, 2010

Biggest Single-Day Market Drop in History Oct 19 1987

On This Date in History:   After a run-up in the Dow Jones industrial average over the past several weeks that put it in positive territory by some 8% for the year, it took a tumble.  The Dow gave back about 1.5%, or 165 points to close as session that saw the big board showing a deficit well over 200 before the close.  Profits have been up for a large number of companies during the most recent “earnings season” but the Dow took a hit anyway.  The general consensus is that China raising its interest rates was the catalyst.  With a rise in Chinese interest rates, that economy may slow down and so the dollar got stronger.  The dollar rose 1.7% and commodities, including oil, fell.  Oil had been up about 13% over the past month, mainly due to a weakening dollar.  Since most commodities, including oil, are traded in dollars then when the dollar gets weaker the price of commodities rise.  Earlier this year when there was the European fiscal crisis, the dollar rose and oil prices fell.  When the crisis seemed to pass, then the dollar got weaker against other commodities and oil prices rose.  So, it would appear that, at the current time, the Dow Jones and other indices such as the S&P 500 are responding to currency exchange rates.  I think the volatility in the face of positive earnings reports just shows how nervous the investing class is at this time.

Media Hype in 1987 Proved Unfounded

However, Wall Street is not as nervous as it was 23 years ago when, on this date in 1987, the Dow Jones industrial average fell 508 points.  It became known as “Black Monday,” though its seems that moniker has been used in some form in the past.  That represented a decline of over 22% in one day of trading.  For a similar shock to happen today, the Dow would have to fall about 2400 points in one day.  Back in 1987 on October 19, the S&P 500 fell over 20% so it was a broad sell off of stocks.  The date marked the end of a bull market that had driven the Dow from 776 points in August 1982 to a high of over 2700 points in August 1987.  There was great concern in the media that we were in the midst of another potential 1929 scenario but the market said otherwise.  The very next day, the market had its biggest gain ever when it rose over 100 points and two days later rose 186 points.  By 1989, the Dow had recovered all it had lost on that one day and continued to rise for many years thereafter.  In comparison, the largest single day point drop for the Dow Jones happened on Sept 28, 2008 when it fell 778 points but that represented only a 7% decline.

Thousands lost jobs on Wall Street After 1987 Crash

So often, we hear that the market is a forecaster of the days to come so many experts thought the crash meant that it was the sign of a new recession.  The fallout though turned out to be relatively minimal.  Now, it certainly was a recession for the 15,000 folks on Wall Street who lost thier jobs, but the rest of the economy wasn’t overly affected. An easy answer to simply say that the Dow had risen about 300% in 5 years and people simply took their money off the table.  That is certainly true and probably was an incentive to sell at the first time of trouble.  Still,  it’s not totally clear of the cause, though there are numerous opinions.  However,  there seems to have been a number of factors that had more to do with a changing trading envrionment and new technology than anything else. 

Traders in a Frenzy like in this photo from 1987 may be a thing of the past with the increase in computer trading

It’s as if it was a hiccup in a transition from the old world to the new.  The Brady Commission, formally known as the Presidential Task Force on Market Mechanisms, determined that the failure of stock markets and derivatives markets to operate in sync was the major factor behind the crash.  Several sources put the blame on the then relatively new practice of using computer programs to initiate trades.  The idea is that when certain conditions were met, computers used by large, institutional investors sold large quantities of stocks and a waterfall effect followed suit.  Only trouble with this argument is that markets that did not use computers also dove.  But, it seems to me that if traders on other markets saw the Dow tanking that maybe panic would set in.  Another finger has been pointed at the lack of liquidity of the market.  Traders were unable to handle the large number of trade orders that came in and trading was halted for many stocks.  While it clearly was a problem it doesn’t explain why so many people decided to sell at once.  The bond market at the time featured yields that had risen from 7.6% to over 10% and that provided a nice haven for folks investing in the equity market but those rates did not rise overnight.  Perhaps it provided for a nice alternative and may have encouraged nervous investors who found it a lucrative place to park their tidy profits, but it doesn’t explain the everyone overboard scenario.

Politicians Have Gotten Involved With The Economy for Years

So, a look at what might have happened in preceeding days that may have caused people to collectively decide the party was over might be useful.  Many historians look to consideration by Congress of the Smoot Hawley Act as the cause for the crash in 1929 followed by an extension of doldrums when Herbert Hoover actually signed it.  Now, from October 14, 1987 to October 19 1987, the Dow lost about 30% of its value so the decline really started a few days before the bottom fell out.  It just so happens that on October 14, 1987 US Secretary of the Treasury James Baker announced that there may be a need to follow a weak-dollar policy as part of a larger scheme to stablize global currencies.  That announcment may have influenced foreign investors to pull out of dollar denominated assets.  Then, on October 15 the House Ways and Means Committee passed legislation that eliminated tax deductions by corporations on debt used for corporate takeovers.  Securities and Exchange Commission economists Mark Mitchell and Jeff Netter pointed exactly to that legislation as the underlying cause of the crash in their 1989 published report. 

People Take Different Approaches to "Playing" The Market Though Wise, Prudent Investing May Be the Best Course of Action..But It Can Be Boring

One this is for certain, investing in markets is not a simple proposition and it becomes more complicated every day.  The more we advance in technology, the more new concerns arise and new rules or limitations get considered.  The more the world gets intertwined in the business of economics, the more events in other parts of the world affect the markets at home.  Then there are the traditional risks of interest rates, exchange rates, market risk and just plain the risk involved with the specifics of any underlying company.  The stock market is not for everyone but the more people get involved in markets through their pensions or 401K’s the more markets volatility directly affects individuals.  But, most people assume that the market just goes up and their 401K is always going to grow and that is not the case.  If you want a guarantee, get a toaster.  Better yet, brokers and financial advisors are charged with recommending investments that are suitable to their clients needs, desires and sophistication.  I would submit that most folks who lose money have not been advised properly.  Many of the former employees of Enron were misled into believing that their company stock was a sure bet.  No doubt, many people let their own greed get in the way, preferring to believe that there is a quick way to make a buck as opposed to taking a more prudent way to invest.  One thing I found that is wrong with our markets is that so many people see the market as a horse race or a casino.  They don’t invest in a company but instead bet that it will go up.  Day traders could care less about the company’s long term viability and are more interested in short, quick gains or losses.  They get in or get out by buying and selling or selling short and closing out the position.  That is especially true of options  traders.  That attitude has spilled over into commodity markets where people buy and sell contracts to purchase and underlying commodity, like oil, with no intention of ever taking delivery on that contract.  The bottom line is we have many examples of the complexities of the markets and it would be wise to learn the rules of the game before you jump into the pool.  Its not for the faint of heart.

Some Data Suggest Economy Not Worst Since Great Depression…Not Yet
July 15, 2009

Year                        Unemployment rate
1923-1929              3.3
1930                         8.9
1931                         15.9
1932                         23.6
1933                         24.9
1934                         21.7
1935                         20.1
1936                         17.0
1937                         14.3
1938                         19.0
1939                         17.2
1940                         14.6
1941                          9.9
1942                         4.7

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I recent months, we have constantly been told that this is the worst economy since the Great Depression.  The Dean of the University of Texas business school said so in March President Obama said so in September during his presidential campaign and continues to say so today.   If you look at a few key indicators, one may question that assessment. Professor Lee McPeters takes exception to the notion.

But, when one looks at the unemployment rate numbers from the years just after the 1929 crash, we find that they rise to an average rate of 8.9 in 1930 and top out at 24.9 in 1933. (as per the BLS) It stays above 20% through 1935 and then remains in the mid to upper teens until World War II.  Our most recent unemployment rate was pegged at 9.5% which is far less than the era of the Great Depression.  However, when one looks at more recent historical numbers, we find that the current unemployment rate reflects more accurately with the early 1980′s. In 1982, the avg rate for the year was 9.7% and in 1983, 9.6% of labor was unemployed.  For the 8 years of President Clinton’s administration, the unemployment rate was 5.2%.  During the GW Bush administration, the average unemployment rate was 5.3%,

Beginning Date           Ending Date           Dow Industrials          Loss
    ————–               ————-             ——————              —-
Sep.  3, 1929               Jul.  8, 1932             381.17  to   41.22     -89%
Mar. 10, 1937         Mar. 31, 1938             194.40  to   98.95     -49%
Nov. 12, 1938           Apr.  8, 1939             158.41   to  121.44     -23%
Sep. 12, 1939           Apr. 28, 1942             155.92   to   92.92     -40%
Jan. 11, 1973             Dec.  6, 1974          1051.70  to  577.60    -45%
Sep. 21, 1976           Feb. 28, 1978          1014.79  to  742.12     -27%
Apr. 27, 1981           Aug. 12, 1982         1024.05   to  776.92     -24%
Aug. 25, 1987           Oct. 19, 1987         2722.42   to 1738.74     -36%
Jul. 16, 1990              Oct. 11, 1990         2999.75   to 2365.10     -21%

If we take a brief look at the stock market crash of 1929, we find that the market’s initial jolt was a loss of 89% from late 1929 to mid 1932.  For the current environment to be on par with that time frame, if we consider a market high in 2007 of a 14164 Dow Jones, then the Dow would have to fall to 1558 to equal the malaise.  Midday on July 15, 2009 the Dow stood around 8500.

Dow Jones 1974-June 30 2009

Dow Jones 1974-June 30 2009

1929 Crash...Forecast or Simply History?

1929 Crash...Forecast or Simply History?

 The most recent bear market had a low of 6547 which means the drop from the 14164 high was about 54%.  Now, the Dow had a rebound after the 1929-1932 bear market ended and it rose to at least 194 by 1937, from which time the Dow took another 49% tumble.  The rebound is often referred to as a “false peak” because the apparent recovery in the economy as indicated by the Dow rising 373% from the 1932 low to the 1937 high.  Our current rise from the 6547 low is about 30%.  Earlier in the year, the rebound was more like 40%.  So, the question will be, is our current rise just another “false peak” or is there a real recovery. 

 

GDP percent change based on current dollars

GDP percent change based on chained 2000 dollars

     
     

1930

-12.0

-8.6

1931

-16.1

-6.4

1932

-23.2

-13.0

1933

-4.0

-1.3

1934

17.0

10.8

1935

11.1

8.9

1936

14.3

13.0

1937

9.7

5.1

1938

-6.2

-3.4

1939

7.0

8.1

1940

10.0

8.8

1941

25.0

17.1

1942

27.7

18.5

1943

22.7

16.4

1980

8.8

-0.2

1981

12.2

2.5

1982

4.0

-1.9

1983

8.7

4.5

2004

6.6

3.6

2005

6.3

2.9

2006

6.1

2.8

2007

4.8

2.0

2008

3.3

1.1

The 2008 GDP numbers are a bit misleading because the last two quarters showed contraction with a substantial 4th quarter contraction of the GDP over 6% with the first quarter of 2009 contracting by 5.5%, based on 2000 dollars.  The contraction of the economy as a percentage of GDP is definitely more pronounced than in the late 1970′s and early 1980′s if you only look at the last two quarters and compare it to the annual GDP.  But, you can’t do that. It’s comparing a full year to a couple of quarters.  For instance, the second quarter of 1980 saw a GDP fall of 7.8%, which is greater than any of the past 3 quarters.  It was bad timing for President Carter because he was trying to get re-elected.  Bad timing because the total change in GDP for that year was just 2 tens of one percent.  So, the story is still being written as to how well this recession compares to the early 1980′s.  But, the GDP change for the entire year of 1930 was negative 8.6% followed by -6.4% in 1931 and then a huge contraction of 13% in 1932.  We’ve had two quarters with a 6% and 5.5% decline. 

All of this points to a recession comparable to the late 1970′s and early 1980′s.  The comparison to the Great Depression is simply a tough argument to make, at this point.  I truly hope, as I think everyone does, that politicians will not be able to accurately say that we are in the worst condition since the Great Depression.  Many people have blamed the depression on Herbert Hoover.  Others blamed the deep recession of the late 70′s and early 80′s on Jimmy Carter.  Could this be the reason why the media and politicians choose Republican President Hoover’s legacy instead of Democrat President Jimmy Carter’s?  Or is it more because from a PR standpoint, the Great Depression is something that every one knows about.  Maybe its more attention getting or sexy to talk about the Great Depression instead of a simple recession.  But, regardless of the reasoning, many aspects of the current situation cannot credibly be compared with the depression and more accurate reporting by the media and proclamations by policians would be that it is the worst in 30 years.

 

SPC Convective Outlook Thu 8am to Fri 8am

SPC Convective Outlook Thu 8am to Fri 8am

Weather Bottom Line:

  Today we have a classic situation with a storm coming out of the plains, dragging up warm front.  Clouds and showers with a few t’storms are in the cards but all of the clouds and such should suppress any big storms.  But, the warm front will draw up warm, moist, unstable air behind it so that will set the stage for Thursday as the cold front approaches.  It’s a pretty strong cold front with highs behind it for Friday and the weekend in the upper 70′s and low 80′s.  I would think that we would have a reasonably good chance for t’storms and possibly strong storms on Wednesday afternoon or evening.

DAY 2 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK 
   NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
   1252 AM CDT WED JUL 15 2009
  
   VALID 161200Z – 171200Z
  
   …THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS FROM PORTIONS OF THE
   CENTRAL/SRN PLAINS EWD INTO THE TN/LOWER OH VALLEYS…AND THEN NEWD
   INTO NY/PA…
  
   …SYNOPSIS…
   UPPER TROUGH OVER THE WRN GREAT LAKES WILL DEEPEN SEWD THU FROM THE
   MID MS/TN VALLEYS EWD INTO THE CAROLINAS…AS THE UPPER RIDGE BUILDS
   NWD ACROSS THE INTERMOUNTAIN WEST. THE GRADIENT BETWEEN THESE
   SYSTEMS WILL RESULT IN STRONG FLOW ALOFT…40-55 KT AT 500 MB…WITH
   NWLY WINDS FROM THE NRN ROCKIES SEWD INTO KS/OK…AND WLY/SWLY WINDS
   FROM THE MID MS/TN VALLEYS NEWD THROUGH THE OH VALLEY AND INTO THE
   NORTHEASTERN STATES. COLD FRONT ASSOCIATED WITH THE UPPER TROUGH IS
   FORECAST BY LATE THU AFTERNOON TO EXTEND FROM NY SWWD TO NEAR THE
   AR/MO BORDER…AND THEN WWD TO THE CO/NM BORDER.
  
   …KS/OK/NEB SEWD INTO SRN MO/AR…
   CLUSTERS OF STORMS MAY BE ONGOING AT THE START OF THE PERIOD ACROSS
   THE OZARKS AND WRN CENTRAL PLAINS DUE TO LIFTING ASSOCIATED WITH
   SEPARATE LOW LEVEL JETS. WHILE THESE STORMS ARE EXPECTED TO BE
   ELEVATED…STEEP MID LEVEL LAPSE RATES MAY SUPPORT A HAIL
   THREAT…ESPECIALLY WITH THE CENTRAL PLAINS STORMS. HOWEVER…BOTH
   CLUSTERS OF STORMS ARE LIKELY TO INTENSIFY AND BECOME SURFACE BASED
   LATER IN THE DAY AS THEY SHIFT SEWD AND ENCOUNTER A
   WARMING/DESTABILIZING AIR MASS. OTHER STORMS SHOULD ALSO DEVELOP
   NEAR THE FRONTAL BOUNDARY BY LATE AFTERNOON AS STRONG HEATING
   WEAKENS CAPPING INVERSION. ONCE SURFACE BASED STORMS DEVELOP…THE
   COMBINATION OF MODERATELY STRONG INSTABILITY AND EFFECTIVE SHEAR AT
   30-40 KT WILL BE FAVORABLE FOR SEVERE STORMS. GIVEN THE STRONGLY
   VEERING WIND PROFILES AND NWLY FLOW ALOFT…THE DEVELOPMENT OF MCS/S
   WITH COLD POOLS APPEAR MOST LIKELY…WITH WIND DAMAGE THE GREATER
   THREAT…ESPECIALLY DURING THE AFTERNOON/EVENING HOURS.
  
   …LOWER OH/TN VALLEYS NEWD INTO NY/PA…
   AS UPPER TROUGH AMPLIFIES…HEIGHTS WILL GRADUALLY LOWER AND
   TEMPERATURES COOL ALOFT ACROSS THE REGION. ONCE TEMPERATURES WARM
   INTO THE 80S…MODERATE INSTABILITY WILL DEVELOP WITHIN MOIST AIR
   MASS LOCATED AHEAD OF THE COLD FRONT. ALTHOUGH WINDS ABOVE THE
   BOUNDARY LAYER WILL BE MOSTLY WLY/WSWLY…SPEED SHEAR WILL PROVIDE
   SUFFICIENT DEEP LAYER SHEAR TO SUPPORT ORGANIZED STORMS.  EVEN
   THOUGH MODELS VARY ON THE COVERAGE OF STORMS…THE AMOUNT OF
   INSTABILITY AND COOLER TEMPERATURES ALOFT SHOULD SUPPORT SOME SEVERE
   HAIL. HOWEVER…THE DEEP UNIDIRECTIONAL WIND PROFILES APPEAR MOST
   FAVORABLE FOR LINE SEGMENTS AND WIND DAMAGE. SINCE STORMS WILL BE
   DIURNALLY DRIVEN…THEY SHOULD DIMINISH QUICKLY AFTER SUNSET.
  
   ..IMY.. 07/15/2009

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